Chance The Rapper Isn’t Afraid of Trump’s Presidency: Sh*t is sweet for white, middle America.

Being around Kanye, Kanye says crazier sh*t in private than he does in public, which is hard to believe because he says the craziest things in public. He does have a filter. He’s not a liar or somebody that is going to sugarcoat things when he does speak. But Kanye’s said some crazy shit to me where I respond, “No, I don’t feel you at all.” I always wanted to be more of a person that people enjoy. Somebody that will make you laugh. I’m talking about just my personality, not necessarily how my music sounds. Because I believe I’m a disrupter like Kanye in a lot of ways.

On what he thinks will happen when he dies: 

Okay. I don’t believe that there will be a moment of me crossing over. I think. I guess there probably is some type of legal process that you have to go through, where you have to go say wassup to Peter, or whoever’s at the gate, and he says “Come on in” and everything.

It’s like a nightclub. “How many girls do you have with you?”

Exactly. Saint Peter’s like, “Yo, you did really good, we got a table for you in the back, Jesus is trying to see you.” All that process probably does go down. But what I think about is the opportunity to be God-like. I believe that we’re all created in God’s image and that we have free will and have a lot of opportunities allotted to us that could otherwise not be. Um, but I think my understanding of it is when you die, it’s the closest that you can be to God. And it is the, you know, the realization of self and self-worth and purpose and your opportunity to be everlasting.

On the importance of the Grammys to music and to him:

I think the Grammys are super important to music. As a musician, I think it’s the same thing as an actor receiving an Oscar. Do I think that the Grammys are always fully representative of a person’s talent? No. Just like Leonardo DiCaprio didn’t get an Oscar until this past year. And he’s been doing his fucking thing. But I think everybody wants validation, everybody wants to feel like they did right. And I think the nominations are my victory. You know?

On if he has ever purchased a chain:

Like a rapper chain? Never. Nothing ever from an expensive jeweler. Nah. Hell nah. That’s not me.

On the last time he was broke:

I go broke a lot.

I go broke a lot because I have this understanding that whatever I put out there, if I really am doing what’s right, it’s going to be rewarding, you know? If I’m working on it—if I’m diligently working on it—something will come back. And that’s how every project has been since I was in high school, since I was Instrumentality [Chance’s musical alter ego in high school] and I was giving out CDs for free. Everything has come back tenfold. I remember sitting on the back of the bus on the first day of the Social Experiment tour, with my face in my hands. I emptied out my bank account, and before I did that tour, that was the number one thing I said I’d never do. I’ll never empty out my savings. But I put all that money up, and within two weeks, when everyone was getting paid, I was like, Okay, cool, we’re good again.

On the most expensive thing he’s purchased that wasn’t a car or a home:

For a second, when I first moved back to Chicago from L.A., I had old habits to break. I would buy very, very expensive Ralph Lauren stuff. I got into Polo really heavy. Like, Oh shit, now this is all I do. I have three- to four-thousand-dollar merino wool sweaters or cashmere sweaters and shit. What I do a lot, that I had to cut out, was I used to take my friends places and spend a lot of money at fun places on some weird kid shit. I recently took, like, 35 of my friends and all of the Golden State Warriors to Sky Zone. Just because they were in town and I like Sky Zone.

On what he thinks his mom feels about him now:

I think my mom is very, very, very proud.

On his celebrity status:

I think I’m the most apprehensive and private of all of us. I remember when I was first getting into my career, my mom was very, very hands-on and protective. She’s super smart. I’m a young parent in a relationship, so there’s always relationship advice or parenting advice that I get from my parents. I do miss the times when I was, you know, still living on 79th and could come home, but I don’t feel as sheltered by anybody anymore.

My dad has always just been a people person. I still look to my dad for advice.

My dad’s the man. And I can’t say that enough. He has always stuck up for people. And he’s also always been a good dude. That’s who I want to be. I’m okay if the story seems boring to people because I’m a good guy. I’m cool with that. I’d be cool with people remembering me as a good, boring dude. As long as people say good. You know? I want to be the good guy. And sometimes the good guy sounds like a lame thing. But the good guy, in what I’ve seen happen so far, the good usually wins. That’s why I’m not afraid of a Trump presidency..

Donald Trump

On being not afraid of a Trump presidency:

You gotta just understand, like, sh*t has been f*cked-up, right? Like, “Make America Great Again,” that’s not a real thing because sh*t ain’t really switched up for them. It’s not really going that bad for you. If you feel like you’re the under-represented, under-appreciated side of Middle America that is white—quote me—you need to, uh, toughen up, n*gga! Somebody gotta punch you in the chest, because sh*t is sweet for you. You know what I’m saying? I would say to everybody, you know, the world is coming together. Like there’s—every day people are becoming more and more, I’m not using this word in terms of emotion, but sensitive to real issues and—And aware.

Yeah. And aware. That’s really what I mean. People are raising their kids to be more and more knowledgeable and understanding. I would say the main reason not to be afraid is that I’m making music for your kids now. I’m coming so clean-cut with the message of hope and understanding, and the Word, that it’s like: What could you be fearful of?

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